Tuesday, October 09, 2007

SHOW ME THE SCIENCE!

From time to time one will hear a member of the 9/11 truth movement cry out...

"Yah, well what about the 190 architects and engineers, what about the 100 military officials, what about the 150 scientists who all have problems with the official story?"

Well here is my reply...

What about them? JUST because they are academics does not make their opinions on matters unrelated to their expertise right. Even if they are speaking to areas they are "experts" in, without some proof, a scientific paper, or a scientific analysis of the data supporting their opinions, their opinions are just that OPINIONS. We all have them, we are all entitled to them, but they carry little weight.

You have "Scholars for 9/11 truth", "Scholars for 9/11 truth & justice", Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth", "patriots question 9/11", with supposed hundreds of professionals, academics, politicians, all doubting the official story, yet all we hear from them are the same tired, debunked truther canards. Where are the papers...sure there are a few, but nowhere near what you would expect for a group of revolutionary professionals and academics. And when they do produce papers, they are lacking in science, hugely if not completely opinion pieces, or simply rewordings of the good old truth movement staples.

So my response, in Cuba Gooding Jr. fashion, is this...

"SHOW ME THE SCIENCE!" "SHOW ME THE STUDIES!" "SHOW ME THE PAPERS"

You want educated people to take you seriously, do what you know is needed...produce scientifically sound papers with your calculations, results, and then your conclusions. Show us something that could at least attempt to pass a REAL peer review.

Thanks in advance...

3 Comments:

Blogger Jason said...

Great, now we're getting somewhere.. so in order for an expert opinion to be valid, it must be published in a reputable scientific journal. Which scientific journals contain articles that support the OT? Thanks - can't wait to dig-in!

10:23 PM  
Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

http://www.springerlink.com/content/vk8dkmbt4nvbp149/
http://www.springerlink.com/content/d0g645331077xl3m/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V37-473M3T5-5&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2002&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=ca338e05508170da5ef2829d65629b3a
http://ascelibrary.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=JSENDH&smode=strresults&sort=rel&maxdisp=25&threshold=0&pjournals=IJGNAI%2CJAEEEZ%2CJAEIED%2CJBENF2%2CJCRGEI%2CJCCOF2%2CJCCEE5%2CJCEMD4%2CJLEED9%2CJENMDT%2CJOEEDU%2CJGGEFK%2CJHEND8%2CJHYEFF%2CJITSE4%2CJIDEDH%2CJMENEA%2CJMCEE7%2CJPCFEV%2CJPEPE3%2CJSENDH%2CJSUED2%2CJTPEDI%2CJUPDDM%2CJWRMD5%2CJWPED5%2CLMEEAZ%2CNHREFO%2CPPHMF8%2CPPSCFX%2CASCECP&possible1=world+trade+center&possible1zone=article&OUTLOG=NO&viewabs=JENMDT&key=DISPLAY&docID=2&page=0&chapter=0
http://ascelibrary.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=JSENDH&smode=strresults&sort=rel&maxdisp=25&threshold=0&pjournals=IJGNAI%2CJAEEEZ%2CJAEIED%2CJBENF2%2CJCRGEI%2CJCCOF2%2CJCCEE5%2CJCEMD4%2CJLEED9%2CJENMDT%2CJOEEDU%2CJGGEFK%2CJHEND8%2CJHYEFF%2CJITSE4%2CJIDEDH%2CJMENEA%2CJMCEE7%2CJPCFEV%2CJPEPE3%2CJSENDH%2CJSUED2%2CJTPEDI%2CJUPDDM%2CJWRMD5%2CJWPED5%2CLMEEAZ%2CNHREFO%2CPPHMF8%2CPPSCFX%2CASCECP&possible1=world+trade+center&possible1zone=article&OUTLOG=NO&viewabs=JENMDT&key=DISPLAY&docID=10&page=0&chapter=0

Those I found within a few minutes....you could try looking it up yourself.

TAM:)

12:41 PM  
Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

http://ascelibrary.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=JSENDH&smode=strresults&sort=rel&maxdisp=25&threshold=0&pjournals=IJGNAI%2CJAEEEZ%2CJAEIED%2CJBENF2%2CJCRGEI%2CJCCOF2%2CJCCEE5%2CJCEMD4%2CJLEED9%2CJENMDT%2CJOEEDU%2CJGGEFK%2CJHEND8%2CJHYEFF%2CJITSE4%2CJIDEDH%2CJMENEA%2CJMCEE7%2CJPCFEV%2CJPEPE3%2CJSENDH%2CJSUED2%2CJTPEDI%2CJUPDDM%2CJWRMD5%2CJWPED5%2CLMEEAZ%2CNHREFO%2CPPHMF8%2CPPSCFX%2CASCECP&possible1=world+trade+center&possible1zone=article&OUTLOG=NO&viewabs=JENMDT&key=DISPLAY&docID=11&page=0&chapter=0
http://ascelibrary.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=JSENDH&smode=strresults&sort=rel&maxdisp=25&threshold=0&pjournals=IJGNAI%2CJAEEEZ%2CJAEIED%2CJBENF2%2CJCRGEI%2CJCCOF2%2CJCCEE5%2CJCEMD4%2CJLEED9%2CJENMDT%2CJOEEDU%2CJGGEFK%2CJHEND8%2CJHYEFF%2CJITSE4%2CJIDEDH%2CJMENEA%2CJMCEE7%2CJPCFEV%2CJPEPE3%2CJSENDH%2CJSUED2%2CJTPEDI%2CJUPDDM%2CJWRMD5%2CJWPED5%2CLMEEAZ%2CNHREFO%2CPPHMF8%2CPPSCFX%2CASCECP&possible1=world+trade+center&possible1zone=article&OUTLOG=NO&viewabs=ASCECP&key=DISPLAY&docID=13&page=0&chapter=0
http://ascelibrary.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=JSENDH&smode=strresults&sort=rel&maxdisp=25&threshold=0&pjournals=IJGNAI%2CJAEEEZ%2CJAEIED%2CJBENF2%2CJCRGEI%2CJCCOF2%2CJCCEE5%2CJCEMD4%2CJLEED9%2CJENMDT%2CJOEEDU%2CJGGEFK%2CJHEND8%2CJHYEFF%2CJITSE4%2CJIDEDH%2CJMENEA%2CJMCEE7%2CJPCFEV%2CJPEPE3%2CJSENDH%2CJSUED2%2CJTPEDI%2CJUPDDM%2CJWRMD5%2CJWPED5%2CLMEEAZ%2CNHREFO%2CPPHMF8%2CPPSCFX%2CASCECP&possible1=world+trade+center&possible1zone=article&OUTLOG=NO&viewabs=JSENDH&key=DISPLAY&docID=14&page=0&chapter=0

Some more for you to dig into...like I said, if you are interested, do a good search on ASCE's PEER REVIEWED Journal list.

TAM:)

12:44 PM  

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